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	<description>an alternative worship project</description>
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		<title>Comment on on being ordinary by cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks all - Steve, I&#039;ll take the congratulations! And Pádraig&#039;s comment was such a lovely compliment that i try to live into every day! Craig, I am indeed flying free [i have a tattoo design that i really want, that is indeed birds flying free... it just feels so naff to get a tattoo...]. Michaela, you&#039;re too lovely. Am about to email you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks all &#8211; Steve, I&#8217;ll take the congratulations! And Pádraig&#8217;s comment was such a lovely compliment that i try to live into every day! Craig, I am indeed flying free [i have a tattoo design that i really want, that is indeed birds flying free... it just feels so naff to get a tattoo...]. Michaela, you&#8217;re too lovely. Am about to email you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on on being ordinary by Michaela</title>
		<link>http://holdthisspace.org.au/on_being_ordinary/comment-page-1/#comment-87470</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 10:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will never be ordinary!! No matter how hard you try and no matter how the Church specifies or doesn&#039;t specify you - you will always be extraordinary - it&#039;s just who you are.

Great quotes both the organisation demanding nothing of you but integrity, and forgiving you when you fail, and your management style as curating space for people to work at their best. Fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will never be ordinary!! No matter how hard you try and no matter how the Church specifies or doesn&#8217;t specify you &#8211; you will always be extraordinary &#8211; it&#8217;s just who you are.</p>
<p>Great quotes both the organisation demanding nothing of you but integrity, and forgiving you when you fail, and your management style as curating space for people to work at their best. Fantastic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on on being ordinary by Craig Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 10:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fly! be free! (you already were!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fly! be free! (you already were!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on on being ordinary by steve</title>
		<link>http://holdthisspace.org.au/on_being_ordinary/comment-page-1/#comment-87468</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 10:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure if congrats are the right words - but congrats :)

and that quote is fab. might stick that on my door,

steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure if congrats are the right words &#8211; but congrats <img src='http://holdthisspace.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>and that quote is fab. might stick that on my door,</p>
<p>steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on things of beauty by steve</title>
		<link>http://holdthisspace.org.au/things-of-beauty/comment-page-1/#comment-87454</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cheryl, I&#039;ve got a theory on that. It&#039;s called my &quot;from-big-things-little-things-grow-but-only-cos-we-missed-the-campfire.&quot; 

But it&#039;s probably best for a bar conversation.

Here&#039;s to dreamers who gain the gift of hearing a voice beyond theirs

steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cheryl, I&#8217;ve got a theory on that. It&#8217;s called my &#8220;from-big-things-little-things-grow-but-only-cos-we-missed-the-campfire.&#8221; </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s probably best for a bar conversation.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to dreamers who gain the gift of hearing a voice beyond theirs</p>
<p>steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on things of beauty by Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right Steve. Much emerging church and fresh expressions stuff isn&#039;t new at all - and a lot of it is dishonouring to the broader community who has been living in these spaces for a long time. 

I think it&#039;s very sad that the stories which are publicised about emerging church / fresh expressions are most often those communities that are doing something exciting or clever; not those that are doing the hard work of listening first. Hopefully it&#039;s not that the communities aren&#039;t doing the listening, just that it&#039;s not what&#039;s being told about their story... but somehow i don&#039;t get the sense that&#039;s the case.

That might have changed in the last couple of years - I&#039;m out of those church networks and don&#039;t read much in the area any more - but it was one of the things that has made me very cynical about new ventures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right Steve. Much emerging church and fresh expressions stuff isn&#8217;t new at all &#8211; and a lot of it is dishonouring to the broader community who has been living in these spaces for a long time. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s very sad that the stories which are publicised about emerging church / fresh expressions are most often those communities that are doing something exciting or clever; not those that are doing the hard work of listening first. Hopefully it&#8217;s not that the communities aren&#8217;t doing the listening, just that it&#8217;s not what&#8217;s being told about their story&#8230; but somehow i don&#8217;t get the sense that&#8217;s the case.</p>
<p>That might have changed in the last couple of years &#8211; I&#8217;m out of those church networks and don&#8217;t read much in the area any more &#8211; but it was one of the things that has made me very cynical about new ventures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on things of beauty by steve</title>
		<link>http://holdthisspace.org.au/things-of-beauty/comment-page-1/#comment-87452</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah I agree with you Cheryl, it&#039;s not the point of the quote. 

But it did make me thing - putting the quote beside being new to this land, what can I learn from the past, to take into how I see new things. For example, so much emerging church stuff assumes the new frontier, but it somehow seems so much richer if we decide to get there by listening first.

steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah I agree with you Cheryl, it&#8217;s not the point of the quote. </p>
<p>But it did make me thing &#8211; putting the quote beside being new to this land, what can I learn from the past, to take into how I see new things. For example, so much emerging church stuff assumes the new frontier, but it somehow seems so much richer if we decide to get there by listening first.</p>
<p>steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on things of beauty by Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know you&#039;re brave, Lisa... and you talk a lot about finding new ways of doing things. in fact, your life and your work [and PhD] are all about that.

i think the dream of new lands and new frontiers is real for many of us. In fact I think it&#039;s an integral part of our being human. And if we need to be dreaming of new lands to be human, the question becomes how we honour the people who are in the place we arrive, before us.

but really, the new lands and new frontiers aren&#039;t physical places in my world - and it&#039;s certainly not how i read the quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know you&#8217;re brave, Lisa&#8230; and you talk a lot about finding new ways of doing things. in fact, your life and your work [and PhD] are all about that.</p>
<p>i think the dream of new lands and new frontiers is real for many of us. In fact I think it&#8217;s an integral part of our being human. And if we need to be dreaming of new lands to be human, the question becomes how we honour the people who are in the place we arrive, before us.</p>
<p>but really, the new lands and new frontiers aren&#8217;t physical places in my world &#8211; and it&#8217;s certainly not how i read the quote.</p>
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		<title>Comment on things of beauty by Lisa Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to say something similar. The problem with the people who came across the seas before is that the &#039;new&#039; lands already belonged to others and when they arrived they failed to recognise the maps that had already been written of those places. In fact if i could go back in time and stop one period of history i think it would be the era of the tall ships and explorers. 

No sure what that says about my bravery and my sense of discovery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to say something similar. The problem with the people who came across the seas before is that the &#8216;new&#8217; lands already belonged to others and when they arrived they failed to recognise the maps that had already been written of those places. In fact if i could go back in time and stop one period of history i think it would be the era of the tall ships and explorers. </p>
<p>No sure what that says about my bravery and my sense of discovery?</p>
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		<title>Comment on things of beauty by Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a great question to ponder. i guess the start is realising that it&#039;s not new land, or not a new frontier, if someone else is there first [which was, of course, the very heart of the &#039;terra nullius&#039; travesty]...  and if someone else is there first, we have the wisdom to listen for their story of courage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a great question to ponder. i guess the start is realising that it&#8217;s not new land, or not a new frontier, if someone else is there first [which was, of course, the very heart of the 'terra nullius' travesty]&#8230;  and if someone else is there first, we have the wisdom to listen for their story of courage</p>
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